you take away the seductions, the ones who have -- deductions, the ones who have accounts, right now, rate for the rich. i'm saying, if you are -- home mortgage interest, you will pay more in taxes. if you are middle-class, you'll pay less than before. between eight and 12% based on what they are paying now. our plan is specifically geared toward helping the middle-class in the country and folks making a little more have to pay a little more, that is the way goes. everyone will know it is fair for everyone. everyone has the same roles apply. it is not raising taxes. it is re-apportioning who is paying. middle-class taxpayers will pay less. overall will not be different. >> coming up, chris christie takes on hillary clinton.